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Comment from: Betti [Visitor]
I remember I am usually trying to argue with you when you raise these points, so now I won't anymore :-)

I would just like to say a few things to reflect on education and respect.

as far as I can see, the main obstacle in the way is huge class sizes. even in a private school with high fees, it is rarely less than 30 kids per class, with only one teacher and a teaching assistant (in kindergarten), seven hours a day. in prathom, mattayom state-run schools, the usual class size is 40 kids. the only way to manage such a big class seems to be rote learning and repetition. it is really, really difficult to be child-centered when you are trying to manage that many kids, especially with the young ones, who are only just learning to work in groups, cooperate and help each other. listen to everyone's ideas? spot children with special needs? support the talented kids, feed their curiosity, before it is extinguished? cater for the kid who fills in five pages in their workbooks as well as the other who needs the same time just to find a pencil? help the kid who is struggling emotionally after changing schools, losing a grandparent, or just having a hard time? even in a class of thirty with two full-time teachers, lots and lots of energy is needed to catch children who could easy fly under the radar, get lost, need help, need something different. and even then, it is so easy to forget about the average kid, who seemingly doesn't stick out, copes well, but maybe would appreciate that extra little bit of personal attention. after all, many of these kids see us more than they see their parents, and they really need attention and real care.
this is the biggest challenge for us I think, if we truly care and our aim is not merely to go into a classroom, rattle on, walk out and forget about it.

personally, I think real respect cannot be forced. obviously, we can force children to respect us as human beings, just as they should respect everyone else at home or in the street. but we cannot force them to respect us as teachers. it has to come from within. real respect cannot come from status or fear, that will just be fear, nothing heartfelt or deeper than a wai. I can expect a child to listen to my requests for a start. but if I don't respect their personalities, ideas, moods, fears, likes and dislikes, if I don't even try to teach them meaningfully and in a fun environment, then I am not a good teacher and deserve no respect as a teacher, and it serves me right that the children don't care what I say.

I've only been here for 3 years, planning to stay as long as I enjoy living here. I work almost ten hours a day for these kids, they are the top priority in my life. my ego is somewhere on a shelf or in a drawer. I am far from perfect, but I am giving a damn hard try.

these are the thoughts coming to mind on teachers' day :-)
16/01/09 @ 18:45
Comment from: Richard Barrow [Member] Email
Thanks for your comments Betti. I know that you have been doing a grand job in the classroom getting your kindergarten students to be fluent in English. It is not easy when, like you say, we have large class sizes. But, as you know, perseverance does pay of and the rewards for us as teachers are really special. You gave me a lot of ideas before about the potential of kindergarten students and this inspired me these last two years to switch to teaching kindergarten. We didn't really have much of an English curriculum for kindergarten at our school (beyond the vocabulary rat, hat, bat etc.). Now, through the use of songs, games and English cartoons I have managed to show the school administration that Kindergarten have a great potential to learn quickly. In fact, K2 and K3 have now just started learning to the level of Primary 2. However, the difference is, we are not doing much in the way of writing and grammar. It is mainly focussing on confidence with the language.

About the "respect" part of school life - as a Westerner, I do believe that respect should be earned and shouldn't be automatic. However, that attitude of mine has often put me in trouble with the administrators and people who are older than me!

Maybe one day you could blog more about your experiences with getting kindergarten students fluent.
16/01/09 @ 19:41
Comment from: Betti [Visitor]
thank you for the reply :-)

I write a LOT about teaching, just in the wrong language I'm afraid :-)

oh I wish they were fluent :-) after 3 years, about half can speak in sentences, the other half use 2-word phrases mostly but they understand almost as much as they do in Thai, and they can answer questions and have a "conversation" outside rehearsed situations. ű

I think the key is a full-time English-speaking class teacher (in Kindergarten and primary as well) - not many schools invest in having a Thai AND an English-speaking class teacher in every classroom. a teacher popping in for an hour a day will get the children somewhere, obviously, but it is the informal setting and everyday situations (preparing for going swimming or take a nap, snacktime, sorting out the reading corner, lining up to go to the playground, playing together, having informal chats, personal attention and individual practice/fooling around) that the little ones benefit the most from. just like you do with Grace, just somewhat more difficult with 30 kids. if they have a personal, positive relationship with their teacher, they are more likely to want to communicate and learn from that person. this is just so self-evident that I have no idea why it is not done in every EP school.

as for respect etc, I guess I must be thankful for the farang management at my school :-) though I should try crawling on my knees to my boss's desk one day, just to see his reaction :-)
16/01/09 @ 20:36
Comment from: Richard Barrow [Member] Email
I wanted an English teacher in there fulltime. But a good compromise is a regular, once a day session. Repetition at that age is important. Every day does help a lot but smaller class sizes would help even more.

With Kindergarten, I do a 50 minute English session once a week, with about 150 students at a time. I do stuff that works well with classes that size. Then their English teacher will follow this up with her daily lessons with each class.

Like you have already noted, I find students learn far quicker and better outside the restrictions of a classroom. I did a two year stint of being a classroom teacher and my students learned far more in-between lessons.
16/01/09 @ 21:33

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